Monday, March 16, 2015
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Study group discussion: Evening rise of temperature in tuberculosis and malaria
Why is there an evening rise of body temperature in tuberculosis?
Answer: Because endogenous corticosteroid have their levels low in the evening. Cortisol bursts are least frequent in the evening. And steroids are anti-inflammatory!
Why not in all infections? What's special about tuberculosis?
We don't know the answer to this question. If you do, please tell us!
This answer was submitted to us by an awesomite: Increased Cortisol Cortisone Ratio in Acute Pulmonary Tuberculosis: Recent research works regarding TB has revealed that there is increased cortisol level in TB.
Cortisol & IL-1 interaction: At high level cortisol has negative feedback effect on IL-1.
Conclusion: In TB, cytokines, specifically, IL-1 level is markedly increase that leads to fever, but as cortisol level is also high than normal it counteract the action of IL-1 & as a result fever remains low grade.
Due to exaggerated diurnal variation,cortisol effect is very high in late night while very less in evening onwards that leads to evening rise of temperature & night sweating. Normal diurnal variation of body temperature also play a role to make this change more prominent.
Source: http://www.doctorshangout.com/m/blogpost?id=2002836%3ABlogPost%3A423964
Even malarial paroxysms occur in the evening, don't they?
Answer: Yep. Malarial paroxysms have a different reasons. Steroids ain't responsible.
What's the reason for malarial paroxysms then?
Answer: It depends when the entire cycle of trophozoites burst from RBC's.
Here's from one of the members personal experience:
I have had malaria.. I had paroxysms at late night.
Sunday, March 15, 2015
Study group discussion: Smoking and hernia
I have a doubt .. Today in surgery ward, my professor asked me how does smoking directly cause hernia! :/
I know the indirect cause! Coughing!
By weakening collagen?
Does smoking affect collagen synthesis or metabolism? At which step does smoking affect collagen?
It causes less production!
The synthesis of subcutaneous collagen in smokers is specifically impeded, indicating an impaired wound-healing process. Because mature collagen is the main determinator of strength of an operative wound, the results support the view that patients should be advised to stop smoking before an operation.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9551072
In conclusion, smoking is an important risk factor for recurrence of groin hernia, presumably due to an abnormal connective tissue metabolism in smokers.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11910469
Oh....ok. Thanks!
Autonomic system drugs mnemonic
(Terbutaline, ritrodine)
(Neostigmine, physiostigmine)
Saturday, March 14, 2015
Alice in Wonderland syndrome
Wednesday, March 11, 2015
Study group discussion: Structures that pass through the diaphragm mnemonic
When we go to thorax or abdomen... It's hard to remember their relation... Are there any tips?
What sort of relation? The relation of structures that pass through the diaphragm?
Yep.
Ok I know one mnemonic for that.
I ate (8) ten eggs at twelve.
I: Inferior vena cava
aTe: T8!
Eggs: Esophagus (Vagus rhymes with it!)
Ten: T10
AT: Azygous vein, Thoracic duct! Twelve: T12
So to summarize:
IVC - T8
Esophagus, vagus - T10
Azygous, thoracic duct - T12
Hope this helps!
Monday, March 9, 2015
Study group discussion: Purtscher's retinopathy
Does anyone know the name of retinopathy occurring in pancreatitis?
Purtscher's retinopathy!
What are it's characteristics?
Signs visible on fundoscopic examination include
pathognomonic Purtscher flecken and cotton-wool spots around the optic nerve n intraretinal h'age
Yes. The macula is affected too. Granulocyte deposition occurs in the posterior retinal artery.
Study group discussion: Chloroquine and Behcets disease
Antimalarial that causes irreversible retinal toxicity??
Chloroquine?
Yes. It's hydroxychloroquine..!!
Also used in...??
DLE, rheumatoid arthritis!
Lepra reactions too!
Also in extra intestinal amoebiasis!
Skin lesions in dermatomyositis!
Okay, so what pathology in the eye does hydroxychloroquine cause..??
It accumulates there because of high volume of distribution?
It causes Bull's eye maculopathy..!!
And the pathogenesis?
It is said that the drug binds to melanin in the RPE, which could explain the persistent toxicity even if after discontinuation of the medication!!!
I remember the use of hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) in Behcet's Disease. Follow up with eye exam every 2-3 months.
What's Behcets disease?
Behcets syndrome is inflammatory, multi system disease of small vessels resulting in frequent aneurysms and rupture..!! Eyes, genitals and mucous membranes are involved.
It takes many months to treat genital ulcers!
What is that test to confirm behcets..??
Pathergy test
Pricking the skin with a needle = pathergy test. After one or two days, people with Behçet's can develop a lump or nodule where the needle broke the skin.
Correct!
I had a patient with several mouth ulcer's looking like Aphthous ulcer. No other symptoms, just episodic mouth ulcers!
Okay.. Could be due to stress and vitamin deficiency..
And it turned out to be Behçet's disease.
They have a lot Behçet's disease clinic's in Turkey! Must be genetic which is why it is so common.
The exact cause of the disease remains unclear. But Behçet's disease is thought to involve an autoimmune response. This means the body's defense mechanism begins to attack its own tissues. Something in the environment may trigger this abnormal immune response in susceptible individuals. Genetic factors may also play a role.
It is common in young men in Mediterranean area..
Our patient was a woman.
Oh nice to know, thanks!
Saturday, March 7, 2015
Study group experience #14
Cutaneous signs of insulin resistance and lipoproteinemia
Electrolyte abnormalities that cause constipation
Aspirin
Cycloserine
Morphine and atropine
Drug for neurological manifestations of Wilson's disease
ACE in lung diseases
Central trachea in pleural effusion
Walking pneumonia
Aortic regurgitation
Pressure and volume reservoir in the human body
HOCM
Cardiac embryology and fetal heart sounds
Atrial septal defects - Why do they present late?
Gallstone ileus
Hepatic encephalopathy
Kartageners syndrome
Haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis
Thyroid surgery practicals viva questions
Venous ulcer
Pre-eclampsia and HELLP syndrome
Differentials of discharge in a pregnant woman
Glycogen storage diseases mnemonic
Cytochrome c
Agranular cytoplasmic reticulum
Colorful amino acids and pH
Difference between antibody and anti-toxin
Lymph nodes in various diseases
It's been a crazy busy week, especially with group 3 and all, I stay on my toes!
-IkaN
Study group discussion: Haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis
Differences between haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis?
Haemochromatosis is iron overload primary and secondary, iron overload is within cells and interstitium, causes tissue damage. Hemochromatosis is primarily genetic!
Where as haemosiderosis is a form of secondary hemochromatosis due to repeated blood transfusions, deposition of haemosiderin in the cells, with reversible accumulation of iron in RES. I hope its clear!
So heamochromatosis is irreversible?
The tissue damage, I agree, will have consequences. But you can chelate the excess iron?
Yes! But reversible if in the form of secondary- haemosiderosis
Blood letting! Pts encouraged to donate blood it seems, and iron chelating agents would help.
Those untreated develop HCC
Even cardiomegaly
And endocrine issues.. Especially, pituitary and the adrenals
Yeah I think they continuously need to get their iron chelated
So it can be counted as reversible then?
Not reversible..But manageable.
Yes that's a good term actually
Controllable I would say!
Heart failure cells are macrophages laden with haemosiderin in LVF OR pulmonary odema.
Was an episode in house MD. The girl was suspected to have it cause her skin tone had changed several tones darker.
There was this one more episode where they diagnosed Wilson's disease based on the colour change of nailbed on rubbing it with nail remover! I so want to try that.
Really ?
The blood copper level wasn't raised.. No kf rings in cornea.
The lady was a mean woman.. She couldn't feel emotions.. Was manipulative. And the change in personality happened when she was a teenager.
Interesting!
They applied nail remover and behold.. The nail turned blue.
I had a suspected case of Wilson's disease in my college.. She took discharge before I could experiment this.
There is even one more episode on Wilson's in season 1. They diagnose it by observing KF ring over the cornea.
Also, an another episode on Hemochromatosis with a mean chess playing lad.
Yup.. I remember both the episodes! The alcoholic mom with schizophrenia had Wilson's. And the jerk xD
Yeah! Actually, she did not have schizophrenia. They were the manifestations of Wilson's itself.
It was pretty cool how House figures that self sacrifice isn't a symptom of Schizophrenia
Yeah! I love the way House has epiphanies leading to diagnoses.
Study group discussion: Haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis
Differences between haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis?
Haemochromatosis is iron overload primary and secondary, iron overload is within cells and interstitium, causes tissue damage. Hemochromatosis is primarily genetic!
Where as haemosiderosis is a form of secondary hemochromatosis due to repeated blood transfusions, deposition of haemosiderin in the cells, with reversible accumulation of iron in RES. I hope its clear!
So heamochromatosis is irreversible?
The tissue damage, I agree, will have consequences. But you can chelate the excess iron?
Yes! But reversible if in the form of secondary- haemosiderosis
Blood letting! Pts encouraged to donate blood it seems, and iron chelating agents would help.
Those untreated develop HCC
Even cardiomegaly
And endocrine issues.. Especially, pituitary and the adrenals
Yeah I think they continuously need to get their iron chelated
So it can be counted as reversible then?
Not reversible..But manageable.
Yes that's a good term actually
Controllable I would say!
Heart failure cells are macrophages laden with haemosiderin in LVF OR pulmonary odema.
Was an episode in house MD. The girl was suspected to have it cause her skin tone had changed several tones darker.
There was this one more episode where they diagnosed Wilson's disease based on the colour change of nailbed on rubbing it with nail remover! I so want to try that.
Really ?
The blood copper level wasn't raised.. No kf rings in cornea.
The lady was a mean woman.. She couldn't feel emotions.. Was manipulative. And the change in personality happened when she was a teenager.
Interesting!
They applied nail remover and behold.. The nail turned blue.
I had a suspected case of Wilson's disease in my college.. She took discharge before I could experiment this.
There is even one more episode on Wilson's in season 1. They diagnose it by observing KF ring over the cornea.
Also, an another episode on Hemochromatosis with a mean chess playing lad.
Yup.. I remember both the episodes! The alcoholic mom with schizophrenia had Wilson's. And the jerk xD
Yeah! Actually, she did not have schizophrenia. They were the manifestations of Wilson's itself.
It was pretty cool how House figures that self sacrifice isn't a symptom of Schizophrenia
Yeah! I love the way House has epiphanies leading to diagnoses.
Study group discussion: Haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis
Differences between haemosiderosis and haemochromatosis?
Haemochromatosis is iron overload primary and secondary, iron overload is within cells and interstitium, causes tissue damage. Hemochromatosis is primarily genetic!
Where as haemosiderosis is a form of secondary hemochromatosis due to repeated blood transfusions, deposition of haemosiderin in the cells, with reversible accumulation of iron in RES. I hope its clear!
So heamochromatosis is irreversible?
The tissue damage, I agree, will have consequences. But you can chelate the excess iron?
Yes! But reversible if in the form of secondary- haemosiderosis
Blood letting! Pts encouraged to donate blood it seems, and iron chelating agents would help.
Those untreated develop HCC
Even cardiomegaly
And endocrine issues.. Especially, pituitary and the adrenals
Yeah I think they continuously need to get their iron chelated
So it can be counted as reversible then?
Not reversible..But manageable.
Yes that's a good term actually
Controllable I would say!
Heart failure cells are macrophages laden with haemosiderin in LVF OR pulmonary odema.
Was an episode in house MD. The girl was suspected to have it cause her skin tone had changed several tones darker.
There was this one more episode where they diagnosed Wilson's disease based on the colour change of nailbed on rubbing it with nail remover! I so want to try that.
Really ?
The blood copper level wasn't raised.. No kf rings in cornea.
The lady was a mean woman.. She couldn't feel emotions.. Was manipulative. And the change in personality happened when she was a teenager.
Interesting!
They applied nail remover and behold.. The nail turned blue.
I had a suspected case of Wilson's disease in my college.. She took discharge before I could experiment this.
There is even one more episode on Wilson's in season 1. They diagnose it by observing KF ring over the cornea.
Also, an another episode on Hemochromatosis with a mean chess playing lad.
Yup.. I remember both the episodes! The alcoholic mom with schizophrenia had Wilson's. And the jerk xD
Yeah! Actually, she did not have schizophrenia. They were the manifestations of Wilson's itself.
It was pretty cool how House figures that self sacrifice isn't a symptom of Schizophrenia
Yeah! I love the way House has epiphanies leading to diagnoses.
Study group discussion: Hepatic encephalopathy
In liver failure, what is the cause of hepatic encephalopathy?
They are not sure yet but they think it's ammonia.
Yes, NH3 and other substances.
They act as pseudotransmitters.
But how do ammonia levels rise?
Liver detoxifies ammonia by forming urea.. Failure to convert ammonia into urea.
Since liver is damaged.. Ammonia rises.
Does it occur on inhaling ammonia?
You mean, inhaling ammonia when liver is damaged or in normal people? Ammonia is an irritant to the 5th nerve, if I am not wrong. Why would anyone inhale it for a long time?
If by an accident?
Umm. I haven't heard of a situation like that
We inhale ammonia everytime we pass an unclean public toilet! :P
Argh.
Hahaha!
Study group discussion: Walking pneumonia
Study group discussion: Venous ulcer
*a picture of an ulcer was posted on which this discussion took place in the group*
Which side is the lesion on? Medial or lateral?
If it is medial, it can be venous ulceration too! Mass obstructing the venous outflow.
Yup could be as it is superficial.. And also it could be venous ulcer because it looks like the ulcer is in gaiters area..above the medial malleolus..
What is gaiters area?
Gaiters area is where venous ulcers are usually seen. Above medial malleolus!
Where there is highest preasure in vein due to gravitational pull! And incompetent valve also in varicose vein
What's the name of the perforator in that area?
They are cockett boyd dodd and hunter from below upwards.
I have a mnemonic for the perforators
Do share!
http://medicowesome.blogspot.ae/2014/09/types-of-perforators-of-lower-limb.html
Study group discussion: Kartageners syndrome
What is Kartagener syndrome?
Immotile cilia syndrome
May result in Situs inversus
Bronchiectasis
Sinusitis
Glue ear too!
Infertiliy? Sperm motility is also affected i guess
Sperm motility is affected.
The protein involved is 'dynein'.
I've seen a case of Kartageners in my hospital. The auscultation and looking at radiographs was fascinating!
Study group discussion: Gallstone ileus
*a picture of gall stone ileus was posted in the group as guess the diagnosis after which this discussion took place*
Commonest position of obstruction by gallstone in ileum
Ileocaecal junction?
Not ileocaecal valve. The position in books have been mentioned terminal ileum. A little proximal to the ileocaecal valve.
Most commonly, obstruction occurs at the distal ileum.
I didn't know gallstone ileus could be this big. I imagined them to be tiny!
Me too!
I've heard there has to be a fistula for the stone to be that big to obstruct the ileum. Something that connects the gall bladder to the intestine.. Because a stone this big wouldn't pass the common bile duct
I agree with IkaN
Yup I'm sure the patient suffered from a fistula too..
It enters the intestine through cholecystoduodenal fistula commonly..
I've heard my resident mention fistula once
Yep.. And the predisposed patients are those with Crohn's disease! Thanks, just wanted to confirm it :D
Large stones, >2.5 cm in diameter, are thought to predispose to fistula formation by gradual erosion through the gallbladder fundus...
Ohh that makes sense! The huge stone itself causes fistula formation which is why they are common!
"A fistula develops between a gangrenous gallbladder and the duodenum or other parts of the gastrointestinal tract, allowing passage of the stone. Occasionally the stone may enter the intestine through a fistulous communication between the bile duct and the gastrointestinal tract."
Study group discussion: Colorful amino acids and pH
Colorful aminoacids?
Donno. Maybe tyrosine because they add pigment?
Trytophan phenylalanine tyrosine. Tryptophan is major!
They add color to us! Makes sense. At first, I have to admit, I was imagining colors of the rainbow xD
Yeah and remaining are colorless!
At physiological pH what is the charge of amino group and Carboxyl group?
Positive amino negative carboxyl
PANCard
That's a good mnemonic! Will never forget this!
I just remember histidine is the one who is neutral at physiological pH.
Name the positively charged amino acids!
Basic are positively charged I guess. Histidine lysine arginine.
Mnemonic! http://medicowesome.blogspot.ae/2013/11/amino-acids-with-electrically-charged.html
IkaN mnemonic wow <3
Lady gaga is always negative hahaha!
Wednesday, March 4, 2015
Study group discussion: Cytochrome c
What is moonlight effect of cytochrome c?
Sounds interesting!
Cytochrome c in cytosol cause cell death by apoptosis. Cytochrome c in mitochondria helps in electron transport. This dual function!
Ooo.. Yes, the life maintainer and the killer! Why moonlight though?
Moon light means a job on the side, one that you wouldn't wanna disclose.
I have a question, what is the differences between cytochrome c1 and cytochrome c?
I think cyt c is mobile and the other is not.
Yep.
Study group discussion: Agranular cytoplasmic reticulum
What are the functions of agranular cytoplasmic reticulum?
Synthesise lipids, transportation of proteins,enzymes for detoxification of drugs,enzymes of glycolysis.
Study group discussion: Atrial septal defects - Why do they present late?
Why do ASD present later in life?
You mean atrial septal defects?
Yup.
The left atria is stronger than the right, so it's a left to right shunt, initially (Oxygenated blood getting more oxygenated kind of shunt.)
This is why, ASD is acyanotic at birth. It won't present till there is pulmonary hypertension (The lungs get fed up of the excess blood!)
This will cause a reversal of shunt - turning it into right to left. (Now, the deoxygenated blood is getting thrown into circulation!)
This reversal is also known as Eisenmenger's syndrome.
This is why, ASDs present late in life.
Okay.. So I think the compensatory mechanisms make up for the disturbances in circulation in early years but fail later hence the features appear later..
Also the atria contribute very little as compared to the ventricles.
Atrial defects are usually very small thus, less complications in infancy. And also murmurs heard in ASD are not very loud, so its difficult for a physician to detect it.
I think, it becomes complicated due to development of Eisenmenger syndrome in later years.
Yes.. And the patient hardly survive 5-6 yrs after development of Eisenmenger syndrome..
Sometimes, ASDs never get severe enough to present as a heart disease. A paradoxical embolus is the initial presentation of an ASD in some cases!